macOS permissions (TCC) in OpenLogi
One sentence to keep: TCC does not authorize processes, it authorizes identities. A permission report is a claim, not a root cause. Identify the failing layer and the identity that performed the operation before diagnosing it.
1. First decide whether it is TCC at all
Three unrelated failures reach the user as the same symptom (an empty device list). Classify before doing anything else. The discriminator is one log line: did the channel open?
| Agent log | Layer | TCC? |
|---|---|---|
HID++ candidate interfaces count=0 |
enumeration | No. The device's HID++ collection never matched — unsupported device, or not connected. |
failed to open HID++ channel … Failed to open device: Input Monitoring is NOT granted to this process… |
open | Yes. The message classifies itself — grant Input Monitoring to the identity named in §2. |
… Failed to open device: Input Monitoring is granted to this process — another app may hold the device exclusively, or macOS is serving a stale permission session (log out and back in) |
open | The grant is fine. Quit the other app (usually Logi Options+), or log out and back in. See §5. |
opened HID++ channel … then Device::new failed / enumerate_features failed with Channel(Timeout) or report writer callback error: 0xE00002D6 |
probe | No. The open succeeded, so investigate the probe/transport path, including the current status of upstream sidit77/async-hid#45. |
All of these lines are debug-level except the open failure, which is a
warn. A log captured without OPENLOGI_LOG=debug can only ever show the
middle row — in such a log, the absence of the other lines is not evidence
of anything.
Read openlogi list's stderr provenance before using its result:
(inventory read from the running agent)means the HID++ rows came from the same agent snapshot the GUI consumes.(no agent reachable — reading hardware directly; …)or the protocol-version note means the CLI used its own code-signing identity and HID stack because no usable compatible agent snapshot was available.
Camera enumeration is direct in both cases. Without the provenance, a device in
openlogi list is not evidence for or against the agent's TCC grant.
If there is no log at all, go to §3 — getting a log is the whole job.
2. The identity map
The long-running app's HID and input grants belong to the agent. Direct CLI operations use the CLI's identity instead.
| Identity | Binary | Needs |
|---|---|---|
org.openlogi.agent |
…/Contents/Library/LoginItems/OpenLogi Agent.app |
Input Monitoring (opens HID) and Accessibility (owns the event tap) |
org.openlogi.openlogi |
…/Contents/MacOS/openlogi-desktop |
Camera only. It is a pure IPC client and needs neither of the above. |
openlogi |
…/Contents/MacOS/openlogi (embedded CLI) |
Input Monitoring only when list falls back to direct HID or a hardware diagnostic accesses HID directly |
org.openlogi.overlay |
…/LoginItems/OpenLogiOverlay.app |
Nothing |
Rules that drive most reports:
- The identity the user must grant is OpenLogi Agent, which lives inside the
app bundle. Bundles built before the rename spell that directory
OpenLogiAgent.app; both are the same identity (org.openlogi.agent), and the grant survived the rename because the path is not part of the designated requirement. The System Settings+picker will not browse into a bundle, so they have to use Go-to-Folder. Say this explicitly; do not tell someone to "grant OpenLogi permission". - A grant to the GUI does nothing for the agent, and vice versa. There is no bundle-wide grant.
- Every copy is its own identity. A dev build (
org.openlogi.agent-dev), a second install, or a bundle still sitting in~/Downloadseach get their own row. Confirm which binary is actually running before trusting any grant — the diagnose script warns when the running agent is not the one being inspected.
3. Diagnose
Run scripts/diagnose.sh from this skill, or the same steps by hand. It is
read-only and safe to hand to a reporter.
Ask for the agent's log file first. launchd discards the agent's stderr, so the agent also writes a daily-rotated file (7 kept) a reporter can attach:
case ${XDG_STATE_HOME:-} in
/*) state_home=$XDG_STATE_HOME ;;
*) state_home=$HOME/.local/state ;;
esac
ls "$state_home/openlogi/"
It carries panics too. Only when that file is missing or predates the failure is a foreground run worth its cost:
OPENLOGI_LOG=debug \
"/Applications/OpenLogi.app/Contents/Library/LoginItems/OpenLogi Agent.app/Contents/MacOS/openlogi-agent"
Note what that costs: run from a terminal, the agent's responsible process becomes the terminal (§4), so the run you are observing is not the run that failed. Compare identities before concluding anything from it — in particular, a successful open under the terminal's grant does not clear the copy launchd runs.
Reading the TCC database directly is not an option for a normal user — it is
itself TCC-protected and returns authorization denied without Full Disk
Access.
4. Responsible process
macOS attributes a TCC request to the responsible process, which for a plain
child process is the parent. An agent spawned directly by the GUI therefore asks
with the GUI's identity, and the user's grant to OpenLogi Agent appears
to do nothing.
The launch paths that break the chain live in
openlogi-desktop/src/services/ipc/launch.rs and run in this order:
- registered login item →
launchctl kickstart gui/<uid>/<service label>(launchd spawns it directly: its own responsible process, plus crash respawn from the service plist'sKeepAlive). The registration itself isSMAppServiceinopenlogi-desktop/src/platform/registration/macos.rs, driven by thelaunch_at_loginsetting. - packaged helper, not registered →
/usr/bin/open -g -n <bundle>(LaunchServices parents it under launchd, so it is its own responsible process — but unsupervised) - bare dev binary →
disclaim::Command(wrapsresponsibility_spawnattrs_setdisclaim)
Never spawn a helper with plain std::process::Command on macOS. Check with:
sudo launchctl procinfo $(pgrep -x openlogi-agent) | grep -i responsible
It must name the agent itself. OpenLogi.app or Terminal.app there means
every grant on that machine is being ignored.
5. What the APIs actually do
IOHIDCheckAccess— queries only. Never prompts, and never registers the app in System Settings, so an app that only ever calls this cannot be granted: the user has no row to tick.IOHIDRequestAccess— prompts. Blocks the calling thread until the user answers, so it must not run on the async runtime. It is also not real-time: after a grant or revoke the calling process keeps seeing the old answer until it restarts. That is why the agent callsbinary_watch::relaunch_after_input_monitoring_grant().IOHIDDeviceOpen— denial is silent. There is no TCC-specific error, so the transport pairs every open failure withopenlogi_hid::permissions::has_access()and says which case it is (§1). Keep it that way: a bareFailed to open deviceis not reportable.
6. Invariants — do not break these
- Only the agent holds the long-running app's HID/input permissions. Any UI that reports permission state must read it from the agent over IPC, never by querying its own process. Direct CLI diagnostics are a separate, explicit identity and must not be used to infer the agent's grant.
- Every helper launch establishes its own responsible process (§4), and the
spawn result is checked — a silently failed
disclaimleaves the agent running under the GUI's identity, which is invisible until a user reports it. - TCC matches the full designated requirement. A bundle-identifier or
signing-identity change can invalidate every existing grant. The
Verify production bundle identitiesstep in.github/workflows/build.ymlis load-bearing; do not weaken it. - Sign inside-out. The helper needs its own stable designated requirement
so its grant survives updates;
--deepcannot give it one. Seextask/src/commands/macos/bundle/signing.rs. - Prompt from the process that needs the permission, not from whichever process happens to be running. A TCC grant is scoped to the identity that asked.
7. Check current evidence
Do not carry a "currently fixed/broken" snapshot in this skill. Query the current tracker and latest release notes, identify the reporter's release, and read the matching report, comments, current code, and logs. Treat the report's diagnosis as a claim until the provenance and direct evidence in §§1–4 establish the root cause. Re-check linked upstream transport issues before attributing a probe timeout to them.
8. What this cannot fix
Say so plainly rather than promising a fix:
- Apple's
+picker not browsing into bundles. IOHIDDeviceOpen's silent denial — we can only infer it by checking access separately.- A stale
tccddecision that needs a full logout, or an MDM policy. - Ad-hoc-signed local builds: their designated requirement is cdhash-based, so the grant goes stale on every rebuild. Use an Apple Development identity for dev bundles.