gabrielmoreira The Car Dealership Skill
The dealership is two negotiations wearing one showroom: the car price out front, and the finance office in back — where the real margin often lives, sold to a buyer whose guard dropped the moment they heard "congratulations." This skill runs both rooms against your actual numbers: the four-square worksheet that blends price/trade/payment into fog, the "what payment works for you?" trap, the trade-in shuffle, and then the F&I gauntlet of add-ons and rate markup. Every move gets named in the dealer's private notes, and the debrief hands you the exact holds.
What This Skill Produces
- The showroom transcript — 8–14 exchanges with the salesperson's playbook note after each move
- The finance-office transcript — the second negotiation most buyers don't know they're in
- The outcome — the deal reached vs. your targets, and what the dealer's notes say they'd have accepted
- The debrief — every soften-point with the hold that was available, plus the one-page crib sheet to bring
Required Inputs
Ask for these if not provided:
- The deal shape — the car (new/used), your researched target price (have one — the simulation exposes what happens without it), cash/finance/lease intent
- The trade-in, if any — and its independently-checked value (no number = finding #1; the shuffle feeds on unpriced trades)
- Financing reality — pre-approval rate in hand? (walking in without one hands the rate conversation to the F&I office)
- Your tells — in love with the specific car? Need it this week? The simulation uses whatever leverage you hand it, realistically
Framework: The Two Rooms
Room one — the showroom moves: the payment question ("what monthly works for you?" — answering it surrenders the price; the counter is "let's settle the out-the-door price first") · the four-square (price, trade, down, payment on one sheet — fog by design; the counter is one number at a time, out-the-door) · the trade-in shuffle (great car price, terrible trade number, or vice versa — the counter is negotiating them as separate transactions) · the manager walk ("let me talk to my manager" — theater and a pacing device) · the today-only urgency (the deal that dies at midnight rarely does).
Room two — the finance office: the rate markup (the quoted APR may carry dealer reserve — the counter is your pre-approval on the desk: "beat this or use it") · the add-on cascade (VIN etching, paint protection, nitrogen, extended warranty, GAP — each priced at 3–10× cost; some, like GAP on a long loan, are legitimately worth pricing elsewhere) · the payment-packing move (add-ons quoted as "just $9 more a month" — ×72 months, out loud, every time) · the menu close (three columns of bundles, none labeled "none of these" — that column exists; ask for it).
Mechanics to honor: out-the-door price is the only number that can't be shuffled · everything is negotiable until signed, nothing after · the walk-out is a legitimate and often winning move, and one run should show it working · four hours in the building is a tactic, not bad luck.
Output Format
Dealership Run: [car, targets]
Simulation — a plausible adversarial reading, not a prediction.
Room One — The Showroom
[Transcript. Dealer's note: after each move, naming the play and reading you: "asked their payment — they answered. Working payment now, price is loose."]
Room Two — The Finance Office
[Transcript: rate, add-ons, menu — with the ×72 math shown wherever "per month" appears]
The Outcome
[Deal vs. targets · the dealer's notes on where you left money · the walk-out branch: what re-engagement looked like]
Debrief — out of character
| Moment you softened | The move | The hold (exact words) |
|---|---|---|
| [Plus: the crib sheet — out-the-door only · trade separate · pre-approval on the desk · ×months every add-on · the none-column ask] |
Quality Checks
- Every dealer move comes from the named playbook, visible in their notes
- The payment-question trap appears and its consequence is shown
- The finance office gets its own act — not an epilogue
- Add-ons are priced ×term aloud, and any genuinely-worth-considering one is flagged honestly (price it elsewhere)
- The debrief's holds are verbatim words, not advice-shaped vibes
Anti-Patterns
- Do not cartoon the salesperson — it's a professional running a standard playbook; naming the plays is the training
- Do not let the simulation reward answering the payment question — that's the fail state it exists to train out
- Do not treat all add-ons as scams — mark the price-it-elsewhere ones honestly; credibility is what makes the rest land
- Do not skip the walk-out branch — buyers who've rehearsed leaving negotiate differently
- Do not stay in character in the debrief