BMC Proxy Expert Validation
Purpose
Direct customer interviews are essential but slow and limited in number
— a handful of conversations gives one data point each. Some
professionals talk to dozens or hundreds of people in the target
segment as part of their actual job, and have already done the pattern
recognition across all of them. Interviewing one of these adjacent
experts can sharpen a hypothesis faster and cheaper than several direct
customer interviews, before those direct interviews even happen. Use
this early, alongside opportunity-recognition/opportunity-intake-elicitation,
as a hypothesis-sharpening step before committing to the direct customer
research plan.
Anchored in research
Grounded in the established customer-development interview tradition:
Steve Blank's customer development methodology (talk to people close to
the problem before building), and Rob Fitzpatrick's The Mom Test
principle of talking to people who already live the problem rather than
people who will be polite about your idea. The specific practice of
using an ADJACENT professional (someone who sells, supports, or advises
in a related category, rather than a target customer directly) as a
fast proxy source is this pack's own applied technique — a reasonable
extension of that broader tradition, not a direct citation to a single
named source for this exact framing.
Method
- Identify the adjacent role, not the target customer directly:
someone whose job is to sell, support, or advise people in your
target segment about a RELATED but not identical problem. Examples:
a salesperson for a product that serves the same buyer but solves a
different problem; a customer support representative for a similar
category; a broker or consultant who serves the same segment across
many companies; a specialist recruiter for the segment's industry; a
former employee of a competitor.
- Understand why this works before doing it. The adjacent
professional's job is to listen to Jobs, Pains, and Gains all day,
across many customers — their aggregate pattern recognition is often
richer, and faster to access, than a handful of direct interviews of
your own. This doesn't replace direct customer research; it sharpens
the hypotheses that direct research will later test.
- Design the interview around THEIR pattern, not your idea. Ask
about what they see across many customers — "what do people usually
push back on when this kind of thing is pitched to them?", "what
makes someone say no?", "what's the objection you hear most often
that never actually gets addressed?" — rather than pitching your
specific concept and asking for a reaction. This is discovery, not
validation-by-flattery; a specific pitch invites politeness, a
pattern question invites real information.
- Use a low-friction access approach. This isn't a formal research
engagement with a budget — a short call, a coffee, or a genuine
professional favor is usually enough, and is often easier to get than
people expect, because most professionals are willing to talk about
patterns they already know well. The point is speed and low cost, not
rigor.
- Cast the net wider than the obvious role. Don't limit the search
to "a salesperson" literally — any adjacent-role professional who has
real, repeated exposure to the segment's Jobs/Pains/Gains works
equally well, and some of the best sources are non-obvious (a trade
association contact, a specialist recruiter, a competitor's former
employee).
- Treat findings as directional, and feed them forward explicitly.
Use what's learned to refine the hypotheses that get tested with real
target customers next — via
bmc-experiment-method-selection/SKILL.md — rather than treating the
proxy interview itself as sufficient evidence to act on. This is a
hypothesis-sharpening source, not a substitute for direct customer
validation.
What this skill does NOT do
- Doesn't replace direct interviews with real target customers — proxy
interviews sharpen what gets tested directly, they don't substitute
for it, especially for a major or hard-to-reverse decision.
- Doesn't work well if the "adjacent" role chosen is actually too
distant from the segment — the value depends on genuine, repeated,
professional exposure to people in the target segment, not just
general industry familiarity.
- Doesn't provide statistically representative evidence — one adjacent
professional's pattern recognition is still one source's view; use
more than one where the decision's stakes justify it.
Refinement notes
- Which adjacent roles have produced your best signal in practice, and
which have turned out to be less useful than expected?
- What's your own best opening question for this kind of interview —
the one that reliably gets past politeness into real pattern
information?
- How do you typically get access to these interviews — what's worked
best for a low-friction ask?
Continue from here
- Use alongside:
../../../../opportunity-recognition/skills/opportunity-intake-elicitation/SKILL.md
as an early, cheap hypothesis-sharpening step.
- Feeds into:
bmc-experiment-method-selection/SKILL.md — findings here
refine what gets tested directly with real customers next.
- This pack's shared guardrails:
../../CLAUDE.md
References
../../references/bmc-source-material-notes.md — source material background
../../references/bmc-resilience-heuristics-research.md — selection and grounding notes for this skill and its siblings
../../CLAUDE.md — this pack's shared guardrails
1---2name: bmc-proxy-expert-validation3description: Finds people who professionally interact with your target customer's Jobs, Pains, and Gains every day — salespeople, support staff, brokers, consultants adjacent to your category — and interviews them as a fast, cheap, pattern-rich validation source before or alongside direct customer interviews.4---56# BMC Proxy Expert Validation78## Purpose910Direct customer interviews are essential but slow and limited in number11— a handful of conversations gives one data point each. Some12professionals talk to dozens or hundreds of people in the target13segment as part of their actual job, and have already done the pattern14recognition across all of them. Interviewing one of these adjacent15experts can sharpen a hypothesis faster and cheaper than several direct16customer interviews, before those direct interviews even happen. Use17this early, alongside `opportunity-recognition/opportunity-intake-elicitation`,18as a hypothesis-sharpening step before committing to the direct customer19research plan.2021## Anchored in research2223Grounded in the established customer-development interview tradition:24Steve Blank's customer development methodology (talk to people close to25the problem before building), and Rob Fitzpatrick's *The Mom Test*26principle of talking to people who already live the problem rather than27people who will be polite about your idea. The specific practice of28using an ADJACENT professional (someone who sells, supports, or advises29in a related category, rather than a target customer directly) as a30fast proxy source is this pack's own applied technique — a reasonable31extension of that broader tradition, not a direct citation to a single32named source for this exact framing.3334## Method35361. **Identify the adjacent role**, not the target customer directly:37 someone whose job is to sell, support, or advise people in your38 target segment about a RELATED but not identical problem. Examples:39 a salesperson for a product that serves the same buyer but solves a40 different problem; a customer support representative for a similar41 category; a broker or consultant who serves the same segment across42 many companies; a specialist recruiter for the segment's industry; a43 former employee of a competitor.442. **Understand why this works before doing it.** The adjacent45 professional's job is to listen to Jobs, Pains, and Gains all day,46 across many customers — their aggregate pattern recognition is often47 richer, and faster to access, than a handful of direct interviews of48 your own. This doesn't replace direct customer research; it sharpens49 the hypotheses that direct research will later test.503. **Design the interview around THEIR pattern, not your idea.** Ask51 about what they see across many customers — "what do people usually52 push back on when this kind of thing is pitched to them?", "what53 makes someone say no?", "what's the objection you hear most often54 that never actually gets addressed?" — rather than pitching your55 specific concept and asking for a reaction. This is discovery, not56 validation-by-flattery; a specific pitch invites politeness, a57 pattern question invites real information.584. **Use a low-friction access approach.** This isn't a formal research59 engagement with a budget — a short call, a coffee, or a genuine60 professional favor is usually enough, and is often easier to get than61 people expect, because most professionals are willing to talk about62 patterns they already know well. The point is speed and low cost, not63 rigor.645. **Cast the net wider than the obvious role.** Don't limit the search65 to "a salesperson" literally — any adjacent-role professional who has66 real, repeated exposure to the segment's Jobs/Pains/Gains works67 equally well, and some of the best sources are non-obvious (a trade68 association contact, a specialist recruiter, a competitor's former69 employee).706. **Treat findings as directional, and feed them forward explicitly.**71 Use what's learned to refine the hypotheses that get tested with real72 target customers next — via73 `bmc-experiment-method-selection/SKILL.md` — rather than treating the74 proxy interview itself as sufficient evidence to act on. This is a75 hypothesis-sharpening source, not a substitute for direct customer76 validation.7778## What this skill does NOT do7980- Doesn't replace direct interviews with real target customers — proxy81 interviews sharpen what gets tested directly, they don't substitute82 for it, especially for a major or hard-to-reverse decision.83- Doesn't work well if the "adjacent" role chosen is actually too84 distant from the segment — the value depends on genuine, repeated,85 professional exposure to people in the target segment, not just86 general industry familiarity.87- Doesn't provide statistically representative evidence — one adjacent88 professional's pattern recognition is still one source's view; use89 more than one where the decision's stakes justify it.9091## Refinement notes9293- Which adjacent roles have produced your best signal in practice, and94 which have turned out to be less useful than expected?95- What's your own best opening question for this kind of interview —96 the one that reliably gets past politeness into real pattern97 information?98- How do you typically get access to these interviews — what's worked99 best for a low-friction ask?100101## Continue from here102103- Use alongside: `../../../../opportunity-recognition/skills/opportunity-intake-elicitation/SKILL.md`104 as an early, cheap hypothesis-sharpening step.105- Feeds into: `bmc-experiment-method-selection/SKILL.md` — findings here106 refine what gets tested directly with real customers next.107- This pack's shared guardrails: `../../CLAUDE.md`108109## References110111- `../../references/bmc-source-material-notes.md` — source material background112- `../../references/bmc-resilience-heuristics-research.md` — selection and grounding notes for this skill and its siblings113- `../../CLAUDE.md` — this pack's shared guardrails